1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,066 WORKING 2892 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:18,685 Welcome to the Jim Bakker Show, coming to you from the Village of Morningside, snuggled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains. 3 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:29,095 Today, Jim's special guest, Lt Col Robert Macginnis, Tom Horn. 4 00:00:29,095 --> 00:00:31,798 I'm Zach Drew, along with the Morningside band. 5 00:00:31,798 --> 00:00:45,078 And now, direct from Grace Street at Morningside, here are your hosts, Jim and Lori Bakker. 6 00:00:45,078 --> 00:00:46,045 [Pastor Jim] Hello everybody! 7 00:00:46,045 --> 00:00:47,680 Welcome to Grace Street. 8 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,850 So grateful to have you at our house today. 9 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:53,887 We have an amazing broadcast. 10 00:00:53,887 --> 00:00:57,190 You do not want to miss this show. 11 00:00:57,190 --> 00:01:01,261 We have the Final Pope author with us today. 12 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:09,302 Thomas Horn is back. 13 00:01:09,302 --> 00:01:11,037 You're a great guest. 14 00:01:11,037 --> 00:01:15,275 You brought a special friend with you today. 15 00:01:15,275 --> 00:01:18,278 I just got his book last night. 16 00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:21,448 I'm a speed reader, but not that fast. 17 00:01:21,448 --> 00:01:26,786 I was racing through this book. 18 00:01:26,786 --> 00:01:35,195 I want to tell you, this book, Never Submit, is perhaps one of the most important books you'll ever read. 19 00:01:35,195 --> 00:01:40,066 It's America's time to read this book now. 20 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:43,303 Now. 21 00:01:43,303 --> 00:01:51,377 Lt Col Robert Maginnis is with us today from the Pentagon. 22 00:01:51,377 --> 00:01:55,315 He is a senior strategist at the Pentagon. 23 00:01:55,315 --> 00:02:00,653 How long have you been in and out of the Pentagon, have you been in different positions there, I know over the years. 24 00:02:00,653 --> 00:02:04,390 [Lt Col Maginnis] I started in '69 at West Point, and I'm still at the Pentagon. 25 00:02:04,390 --> 00:02:07,861 So a couple of years in between, so it's over 40 years. 26 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:10,129 [Pastor Jim] Wow. 27 00:02:10,129 --> 00:02:17,437 So you work for the department of the army, you worked as inspector general at the Pentagon. 28 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:18,805 What else did you do? 29 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:21,274 Can you give me a little bit more of your background? 30 00:02:21,274 --> 00:02:24,844 [Lt Col Maginnis] I'm a combat officer, an infantry officer, a ranger. 31 00:02:24,844 --> 00:02:28,915 I've served in four infantry divisions. 32 00:02:28,915 --> 00:02:36,155 Most recently I run a course through the army that trains people how to do engagements with armies across the world. 33 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:40,159 I actually trained officers and senior civilians in how to do that. 34 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:43,763 In fact, I'm just about ready to go to Europe to do another one. 35 00:02:43,763 --> 00:02:50,603 And then I do a lot of media on the side, because I've been an analyst for the last couple of decades. 36 00:02:50,603 --> 00:02:53,239 [Pastor Jim] You're really called upon by the media. 37 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:55,942 I know you're on CNN, you're on FOX. 38 00:02:55,942 --> 00:03:00,313 Of course, we see you. 39 00:03:00,313 --> 00:03:04,350 Newspapers, New York Times, US Newsreel Report, Time Magazine. 40 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:11,124 You have written 235 reports on ISIS. 41 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:17,130 So if there's anybody I want to interview today, who is ISIS, what are they doing, 42 00:03:17,130 --> 00:03:21,200 what in the world is going on in our world today? 43 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,371 Didn't you report 9/11 on FOX News? 44 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:32,579 [Lt Col Maginnis] Yeah, I was with them several times that day, the last with Bill Bennett and O'Reilly from 11 to 12 45 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:33,947 o'clock that night. 46 00:03:33,947 --> 00:03:37,016 That very day, because I was right there. 47 00:03:37,016 --> 00:03:43,456 And I had predicted long before that Osama bin Laden was a threat to the United States because I covered what had 48 00:03:43,456 --> 00:03:47,560 happened in Tanzania and Uganda, they attacked our embassies. 49 00:03:47,560 --> 00:04:00,106 And also curiosity with what was happening with this Jihadist movement and what it meant for the United States. 50 00:04:00,106 --> 00:04:06,312 [Pastor Jim] I really want to ask you a few questions about Paris. 51 00:04:06,312 --> 00:04:09,882 It's like, how can this happen to Paris? 52 00:04:09,882 --> 00:04:20,226 How does your book, this book Never Submit, and I'm telling you, people, I've just gotten this book, and we'll go into it 53 00:04:20,226 --> 00:04:22,595 a little bit more as we go along today. 54 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:30,169 But you can order the book through our show, get it now and read it. 55 00:04:30,169 --> 00:04:36,175 You don't know where truth is anymore, you need to study. 56 00:04:36,175 --> 00:04:39,846 The Bible says study to show yourself approved. 57 00:04:39,846 --> 00:04:46,285 We need to find out truth, because we're in deep, deep trouble. 58 00:04:46,285 --> 00:04:55,361 [Zach] One of the things that I'm excited about having Lt Col Robert Maginnis here today is that he has all of this inside 59 00:04:55,361 --> 00:05:02,335 information, and even being at the Pentagon and being able to filter through what we're seeing on the media and be able to talk 60 00:05:02,335 --> 00:05:05,772 to us about the real truth about what's going on. 61 00:05:05,772 --> 00:05:10,943 Because even though he's hardcore in the government, knows his information, he filters it all through a 62 00:05:10,943 --> 00:05:14,781 Biblical worldview. 63 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:18,551 [Lori] Thank you, Lord. 64 00:05:18,551 --> 00:05:20,553 [Pastor Jim] Tom, tell us how you met. 65 00:05:20,553 --> 00:05:27,827 [Tom Horn] Well actually, we have a mutual friend, Terry James, who is a blind conservative Baptist writer. 66 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:33,032 Published a lot of books, I think Terry's got 40 or 50 books out there now that's been published over the years. 67 00:05:33,032 --> 00:05:39,338 I knew him, and he came to me one day and he said, "Hey, would you be interested in publishing a book?" 68 00:05:39,338 --> 00:05:44,544 Because he knew that Joel Richardson and I are friends and that Joel and I had talked quite a bit, you've had Joel on the 69 00:05:44,544 --> 00:05:49,115 program, about the whole apocalyptic mindset behind ISIS, which was important to me. 70 00:05:49,115 --> 00:05:56,589 And Terry said, "How would you like to publish a guy that works at the Pentagon who happens to agree with this apocalyptic 71 00:05:56,589 --> 00:06:05,198 mindset, but who has an insider's, well a plan, really, for how to defeat the Islamic state?" 72 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:07,433 And this from a guy that this is what he does. 73 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:10,636 He teaches people how to make war. 74 00:06:10,636 --> 00:06:12,605 And yet, he's a prophecy believer? 75 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:13,706 I'm like, wow, really? 76 00:06:13,706 --> 00:06:16,375 This is a lot of good stuff all rolled into one. 77 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:20,546 And not just a Christian, a conservative Christian. 78 00:06:20,546 --> 00:06:25,785 Because today Christianity can mean anything, right? 79 00:06:25,785 --> 00:06:27,553 I jumped at the chance. 80 00:06:27,553 --> 00:06:33,359 [Pastor Jim] That's shocking that you're a conservative. 81 00:06:33,359 --> 00:06:35,895 There's such a warfare. 82 00:06:35,895 --> 00:06:43,002 America has changed in the last decade, couple of decades, extreme change. 83 00:06:43,002 --> 00:06:51,177 It's like God has been outlawed, and every other "ism" has been allowed in. 84 00:06:51,177 --> 00:06:55,381 I'm scared for America, I really am. 85 00:06:55,381 --> 00:06:56,749 I love America. 86 00:06:56,749 --> 00:07:00,987 And I believe America is in deep, deep trouble. 87 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:04,624 What do you see from inside the Pentagon? 88 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:06,058 [Lt Col Maginnis] Well I agree with you, Pastor. 89 00:07:06,058 --> 00:07:09,362 In fact, the American people do as well. 90 00:07:09,362 --> 00:07:11,998 A new poll says about 83% have no confidence. 91 00:07:11,998 --> 00:07:12,632 [Pastor Jim] How many? 92 00:07:12,632 --> 00:07:13,699 [Lt Col Maginnis] 83%. 93 00:07:13,699 --> 00:07:16,369 [Pastor Jim] 83% have no confidence. 94 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:20,706 [Lt Col Maginnis] Confidence in the direction that we're going with regards to terrorists. 95 00:07:20,706 --> 00:07:24,877 [Pastor Jim] Does anybody hear? 96 00:07:24,877 --> 00:07:27,480 Are you all listening to me? 97 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:34,187 I mean, why is nobody listening but yet everybody's saying the same thing? 98 00:07:34,187 --> 00:07:36,088 [Lt Col Maginnis] Well they are. 99 00:07:36,088 --> 00:07:40,827 As we look around the landscape of the world, we see wars throughout the Middle East. 100 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:42,528 It's imploding. 101 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:45,631 We see the Europe that we used to think was stable. 102 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:52,471 It's really been set by terrorists, Russia is loose, the Chinese are becoming very adversarial. 103 00:07:52,471 --> 00:07:58,578 There's not a safe place in the world, which include our own border, which are wide open to Jihadists. 104 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:00,613 We have plenty of reports there. 105 00:08:00,613 --> 00:08:02,081 So you look around the world. 106 00:08:02,081 --> 00:08:05,852 You can't help but believe. 107 00:08:05,852 --> 00:08:12,058 If you're a believer in 1 Timothy 3, you see all of that happening in the culture, you believe in Zechariah, you see 108 00:08:12,058 --> 00:08:15,595 Israel is a target. 109 00:08:15,595 --> 00:08:23,936 So as I look geopolitically at what's happening in the world, I look at it through that lens and understand that we are, perhaps, 110 00:08:23,936 --> 00:08:28,841 treading ever close to an end-time scenario. 111 00:08:28,841 --> 00:08:34,547 And interestingly the ISIS people, the Islamist, they said that in their own writings. 112 00:08:34,547 --> 00:08:39,185 I look at Dabiq, which of course is their glossy magazine. 113 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,554 Just this past week I was looking at it. 114 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:45,925 They talk about the end times. 115 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:55,968 They talk about hating everybody but them, and their own particular slice of Islam, which is radical to say the least. 116 00:08:55,968 --> 00:08:59,372 And I look at what our president is doing. 117 00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:05,177 It seems like he's running in the opposite direction that the American people want us to go. 118 00:09:05,177 --> 00:09:09,849 We feel abandoned in terms of our own personal security. 119 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:16,155 That's why the polls are beginning to reflect that the American people believe that this man is not looking out for 120 00:09:16,155 --> 00:09:17,189 our best interests. 121 00:09:17,189 --> 00:09:21,427 And that's unfortunate, because we need a Commander in Chief. 122 00:09:21,427 --> 00:09:24,563 Applause. 123 00:09:24,563 --> 00:09:27,500 [Lori] There it is. 124 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:33,306 [Pastor Jim] And I think as Christians we're told to respect our leaders, we're told to pray for our leaders. 125 00:09:33,306 --> 00:09:41,314 I mean, we need to pray for our president like we've never prayed before. 126 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:48,387 It's so heartbreaking, because America is really divided. 127 00:09:48,387 --> 00:09:52,625 But yet more and more that are screaming out that they're worried about Paris. 128 00:09:52,625 --> 00:09:55,695 Can we talk a little bit about Paris today? 129 00:09:55,695 --> 00:09:59,598 Of what's happened over in Paris, and then in Belgium. 130 00:09:59,598 --> 00:10:02,101 Brussels is an amazing city. 131 00:10:02,101 --> 00:10:02,902 Have you ever been there? 132 00:10:02,902 --> 00:10:04,670 It's a beautiful city. 133 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:09,942 I flew there from India one time from the worst floods in history, 134 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:14,747 and I land at this beautiful shiny airport in Brussels. 135 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:17,917 It was such a contrast. 136 00:10:17,917 --> 00:10:24,724 And they closed, as we're taping this program, they have been closed, the city has been closed for days. 137 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:30,463 Come on, there's got to be more that they know that they're not telling us. 138 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,999 They've closed down Brussels in Belgium. 139 00:10:32,999 --> 00:10:39,905 To close it all down for weeks now almost, it's going into a second week, I think. 140 00:10:39,905 --> 00:10:44,844 [Zach] Yeah, the article right here says, "Brussels will remain at the highest possible alert level." 141 00:10:44,844 --> 00:10:50,850 It says, "...with schools, universities, and metros over a 'serious and imminent' threat of attacks similar to those that 142 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:53,986 struck Paris, the Belgian Prime Minister said." 143 00:10:53,986 --> 00:10:58,591 [Lt Col Maginnis] Really the reason is because they've lost control of their culture. 144 00:10:58,591 --> 00:11:08,334 For instance, in Belgium, we've had about 700 people that have gone to Syria learn how to kill, and many of them have come back. 145 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:12,505 In France alone you had 1800 that had gone to Syria, and 180 have come back, 146 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:14,840 and there's a bunch of them that are still loose. 147 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:24,083 You also have within those countries, I call it a Dalmatian effect, in the industrial areas of Lyon, in Paris and Marseille, 148 00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:32,458 these ghettos of people that had come in there as legal refugees, but they failed to totally assimilate. 149 00:11:32,458 --> 00:11:39,098 That's important, because when ISIS comes in and recruits, they recruit amongst the dissatisfied people, the people that want 150 00:11:39,098 --> 00:11:41,901 a different purpose, that don't like the west. 151 00:11:41,901 --> 00:11:49,075 So they raised up five of those killers the other night in Paris were all French nationals. 152 00:11:49,075 --> 00:11:55,681 And of course the ring leader appears to have been a Frenchman who was in Syria, who was controlling things from rocket. 153 00:11:55,681 --> 00:11:58,784 So you've got this happening across Europe. 154 00:11:58,784 --> 00:12:05,191 It's been going on for a couple of decades, and it's getting very, very bad. 155 00:12:05,191 --> 00:12:09,395 [Pastor Jim] You say it's been going on for several decades. 156 00:12:09,395 --> 00:12:15,768 When I read Joel's book, it was such a shock to my system. 157 00:12:15,768 --> 00:12:18,304 I didn't put it down, like your book. 158 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:21,841 I got my hands on it, and I had to go to sleep because I have to do a show. 159 00:12:21,841 --> 00:12:24,376 You get home you got to sleep. 160 00:12:24,376 --> 00:12:26,445 But I read Joel's, you read it, too. 161 00:12:26,445 --> 00:12:34,854 And it was so shocking that what I thought was coming someday is already here. 162 00:12:34,854 --> 00:12:37,156 We've been infiltrated. 163 00:12:37,156 --> 00:12:43,129 You know, the communists used to have an agenda. 164 00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:49,101 They said they would destroy America from within. 165 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:59,378 And it looks like it's not the communist, but it looks like there's another group that's here already. 166 00:12:59,378 --> 00:13:03,482 Do you think even ISIS is inside of our country. 167 00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:04,450 [Lt Col Maginnis] Of course. 168 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:07,887 There are a thousand investigations the FBI is doing right now. 169 00:13:07,887 --> 00:13:14,059 We have the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood who have made it very clear their intent is to take over as much as they can. 170 00:13:14,059 --> 00:13:22,801 And I talked to a gentleman the other day who has interviewed hundreds of al Qaida and Islamists in the Middle East, 171 00:13:22,801 --> 00:13:26,939 and he said, "Bob, they don't just want to kill us, they want to take over our children. 172 00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:30,409 What they want to do is come in and take over the schools." 173 00:13:30,409 --> 00:13:35,748 And if you look at the investments of the radical Saudi Arabian government, they're in our prisons, they're in our 174 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:41,954 schools, they run the teachers colleges, in many cases, through their endowments and the like. 175 00:13:41,954 --> 00:13:45,057 This is what they're thinking long-term. 176 00:13:45,057 --> 00:13:50,596 But we have to recognize that yes, we have a very serious terrorist threat, we have ISIS amongst us. 177 00:13:50,596 --> 00:13:57,603 My own son-in-law, Sargent at our local police department, went into a home, the parents didn't know the son had an ISIS 178 00:13:57,603 --> 00:13:58,604 flag on the wall. 179 00:13:58,604 --> 00:14:02,608 He had been recruiting for ISIS, and sent some of his friends to Syria. 180 00:14:02,608 --> 00:14:07,479 That's the sort of thing that Americans have to wake up and recognize that we have a real threat here. 181 00:14:07,479 --> 00:14:09,114 [Lori] Yes we do. 182 00:14:09,114 --> 00:14:13,552 It's very serious. 183 00:14:13,552 --> 00:14:15,187 [Pastor Jim] What happened in Paris? 184 00:14:15,187 --> 00:14:16,222 How could this happen? 185 00:14:16,222 --> 00:14:19,091 We're told that they have the best security. 186 00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:25,698 Do they have a better infrastructure for defending their own country than we do? 187 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:27,533 [Lt Col Maginnis] No, not any better. 188 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:34,340 Their borders were wide open because of the Schengen Agreement, which basically says you don't need a passport 189 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:36,775 to go from one country to another. 190 00:14:36,775 --> 00:14:38,677 So there's the flow of people back and forth. 191 00:14:38,677 --> 00:14:46,518 That Syrian that was in that group, he went to Syria, and apparently they didn't know, in Paris, that this happened. 192 00:14:46,518 --> 00:14:51,624 They do have a lot of police, they have a lot of surveillance cameras, they have reasonably good intel, 193 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:54,393 but it failed, it totally failed. 194 00:14:54,393 --> 00:15:01,400 When you talk about six targets simultaneously, they had practiced maybe a couple of targets simultaneously, but six 195 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,537 just blew their minds in terms of security. 196 00:15:05,537 --> 00:15:08,774 In America, we've done similar things. 197 00:15:08,774 --> 00:15:13,746 We've increased three-fold our intelligence. 198 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:20,653 We've increased a host of other things, certainly made our borders tighter. 199 00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:25,090 It was only or 19 back in 2001. 200 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:28,360 Today, it's 48000 and growing. 201 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:36,602 The vulnerability that we have, though, and most of the non-American Jihadists 202 00:15:36,602 --> 00:15:39,104 that have come here have come through the Visa program. 203 00:15:39,104 --> 00:15:45,511 The Visa program allowed the shoe bomber to come in, allowed the underwear bomber to come in, and allows a lot of people. 204 00:15:45,511 --> 00:15:54,219 In fact, in countries like Germany and Australia that we're good friends with, there are known about 5000 Jihadists that 205 00:15:54,219 --> 00:16:01,260 could get on an airplane today and not be stopped because of our Visa program, and come to America and do something. 206 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:03,629 We have some evidence that it's happened in the past. 207 00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:06,565 We need to get really serious about this. 208 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:13,739 In fact, the Canadians, interestingly, they said they're going to welcome 25000 Syrians very shortly. 209 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:16,575 Our president says 10000, which is far too many. 210 00:16:16,575 --> 00:16:18,577 But they're talking about 25000. 211 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:23,349 And given the forced border we have with Canada, you have to wonder, how many people are going to come south? 212 00:16:23,349 --> 00:16:26,318 And we already have a problem with people coming north. 213 00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:31,423 Just the other day we stopped nine trying to come into our southern border, and then five down in Honduras. 214 00:16:31,423 --> 00:16:36,662 So there is a very serious border issue. 215 00:16:36,662 --> 00:16:41,166 [Pastor Jim] I hear every day on the news our leaders saying there is no problem, we have no evidence, 216 00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:43,068 you'll hear one person say. 217 00:16:43,068 --> 00:16:48,607 "There's no evidence that there's anyone inside of our country," or anyone planning anything. 218 00:16:48,607 --> 00:16:52,611 Yet in their magazines they say, "We plan to destroy America." 219 00:16:52,611 --> 00:16:56,448 The very first statement after Paris, what was it, Lori? 220 00:16:56,448 --> 00:16:57,483 You remember? 221 00:16:57,483 --> 00:17:06,725 [Lori] One of the first ones I heard was that they were coming for Washington, D.C. and they wanted to taste American blood, 222 00:17:06,725 --> 00:17:10,562 because that was the best blood they could taste. 223 00:17:10,562 --> 00:17:13,165 [Pastor Jim] It's in the social media, it's everywhere. 224 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:19,238 How can our leaders keep telling us there's no sign that there's any danger in America? 225 00:17:19,238 --> 00:17:22,207 Yet you're telling me ISIS is in America. 226 00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:23,742 [Lt Col Maginnis] They're lying to you. 227 00:17:23,742 --> 00:17:29,481 Applause. 228 00:17:29,481 --> 00:17:35,654 [Zach] Now is it just you that says they're lying to us, or are there other people with you at the Pentagon that understand the 229 00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:37,489 lies that take place? 230 00:17:37,489 --> 00:17:47,132 [Lt Col Maginnis] Well, if you'd listen to the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he was on FOX last night, he 231 00:17:47,132 --> 00:17:51,737 said, "Look, we've been telling the White House for years that this is a growing threat." 232 00:17:51,737 --> 00:18:00,579 Even Dianne Feinstein, who is no republican, she said on the news the other day, she reads the intelligence every day, and she 233 00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:03,582 says the problem is growing, it's getting much worse. 234 00:18:03,582 --> 00:18:09,421 What they want to do, they're changing the dynamics of how they conduct operations. 235 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:15,861 They use homegrown terrorists, but then they use some of these turning Jihadists that have the killing skills, and then they 236 00:18:15,861 --> 00:18:21,700 have the general operation out of overseas, out of Syria or elsewhere. 237 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:24,503 So those three coming together is very volatile. 238 00:18:24,503 --> 00:18:27,272 And that's what happened in Paris. 239 00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:35,214 They were able to, in a very sophisticated fashion, hit six targets simultaneously, about a $2000 investment. 240 00:18:35,214 --> 00:18:42,488 They made the suicide bombs out of hydrogen peroxide, which is the same problem we've had in this country, and that's the 241 00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:47,392 reason you can't take fluids on airplanes these days, because you take simple Clorox, basically, and make it into an 242 00:18:47,392 --> 00:18:49,728 explosive device. 243 00:18:49,728 --> 00:18:53,699 And of course acquiring the weapons, they got the weapons mostly from the Balkans. 244 00:18:53,699 --> 00:19:02,441 It was not very hard to pull this off, but what I think should steal everyone's blood, and that's why in Never Submit I 245 00:19:02,441 --> 00:19:08,380 have a chapter, a couple of chapters, on what Islam teaches. 246 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:16,922 You have to understand that these people are sealed with hatred, and they're willing to die for their cause, and they 247 00:19:16,922 --> 00:19:21,760 will die whether we like it or not, they're going to die killing us, given the opportunity. 248 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:30,736 I was on CNN with Chris Cuomo the other day, and somebody who had just been at that theater where they were methodically 249 00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:33,972 going down shot by shot by shot, killing those people. 250 00:19:33,972 --> 00:19:39,344 And this guy said, "These people were so cruel. 251 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:41,346 The killers. 252 00:19:41,346 --> 00:19:50,255 They were all dressed up alike, they said one very simple thing, "Allahu Akbar," God is great. 253 00:19:50,255 --> 00:19:53,825 "We're doing this because of what you did in Syria." 254 00:19:53,825 --> 00:19:56,395 And one after another. 255 00:19:56,395 --> 00:20:08,540 And I've been in Iraq where Saddam Hussein buried thousands of people, and I saw the hands cuffed behind their head, and a 256 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:11,176 shot in their skull, a single bullet shot. 257 00:20:11,176 --> 00:20:12,945 That's what they do. 258 00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:14,346 And they want to bring that here. 259 00:20:14,346 --> 00:20:20,986 They do it all over Syria and Iraq, and we have to recognize that same barbarism that they evidence. 260 00:20:20,986 --> 00:20:24,089 They want to bring it here, and we have to be careful. 261 00:20:24,089 --> 00:20:26,892 [Pastor Jim] Is there a chance that they can do that? 262 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,560 [Lt Col Maginnis] Yes. 263 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:34,800 [Pastor Jim] Do we have holes in our system that they can come through? 264 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,938 [Lt Col Maginnis] All we have to do is be wrong one percent of the time and we're vulnerable. 265 00:20:39,938 --> 00:20:44,109 It only took, what, 8 people? 266 00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:47,145 So how hard is it to get 8 people? 267 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:53,385 Our borders, we're about 40% to 50% effective at stopping the flow of people, are people trying to get into our southwest 268 00:20:53,385 --> 00:20:59,024 borders, or people flying in that shouldn't fly in, or they're coming from the north? 269 00:20:59,024 --> 00:20:59,825 Of course they are. 270 00:20:59,825 --> 00:21:01,326 Are they amongst us? 271 00:21:01,326 --> 00:21:02,194 Yes they are. 272 00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:04,763 So the elements are there. 273 00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:07,165 [Pastor Jim] And millions are coming across our south borders. 274 00:21:07,165 --> 00:21:09,201 Millions over the years. 275 00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:10,135 Is that right? 276 00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:12,104 [Lt Col Maginnis] True. 277 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:21,279 [Pastor Jim] So it's not possible some of our enemies can sneak in with the Hispanic people coming across the border? 278 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:28,320 [Lt Col Maginnis] In May of this year, Dabiq, the ISIS magazine, talked about a plan that they had. 279 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,522 And you can read it, it's online. 280 00:21:30,522 --> 00:21:32,491 It's not very easy to read, by the way. 281 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:34,926 It's in English, but it's not very good English. 282 00:21:34,926 --> 00:21:41,933 They talked about acquiring, basically radioactive materials. 283 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:50,909 They would then ship this radioactive material to their friends in Libya, that civil war country, ISIS has part of it. 284 00:21:50,909 --> 00:21:58,283 They would then use the drug cartels operating out of Nigeria to ship it over to Colombia, and then of course up to our border 285 00:21:58,283 --> 00:22:02,587 aboard vehicles, and then they would plant it in certain places. 286 00:22:02,587 --> 00:22:06,425 Now that may seem outlandish. 287 00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:20,739 Then on the 7th of October this year, the FBI revealed in the Associated Press that there were all sorts of illegal gangs that 288 00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:25,844 were trying to sell radioactive materials to group flag guys. 289 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:26,545 Do they want to do that? 290 00:22:26,545 --> 00:22:28,647 Yes. 291 00:22:28,647 --> 00:22:37,422 The other day the president of France, Hollande, said, we're concerned about a biological and chemical attack. 292 00:22:37,422 --> 00:22:46,865 Now we've seen plenty of chemical feuds in Syria, but it's the radiological device with some explosive TNT, or even 293 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:56,842 a hydrogen peroxide bomb, or plastic explosive, in a city like Washington, D.C., it would become a contaminated place for 294 00:22:56,842 --> 00:22:59,111 forever. 295 00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:06,551 [Tom Horne] One thing I've wondered about is what about an airplane, and you turn it into aerosol, like a crop duster? 296 00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:11,957 You fly over a major metropolitan area with dirty materials, radioactive materials. 297 00:23:11,957 --> 00:23:19,064 [Lt Col Maginnis] It's interesting, they were talking about, ISIS was talking about using it as a suicide bomb. 298 00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,566 I don't know. 299 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:24,603 Because we have this nice ocean between us and them. 300 00:23:24,603 --> 00:23:26,538 Would they like to do that? 301 00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:27,239 Of course. 302 00:23:27,239 --> 00:23:31,109 I've said many times, they spend 30 hours a day, that's an exaggeration, I understand, 303 00:23:31,109 --> 00:23:33,545 30 hours a day trying to figure out how to kill us. 304 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:44,489 And if you've ever, I've been to Guantanamo and I've watched them interrogate Jihadists, al Qaida, some of the most feared people. 305 00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:48,326 I talked to the investigators and interrogators. 306 00:23:48,326 --> 00:23:50,462 These people truly do hate us. 307 00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,697 They hate what we represent. 308 00:23:52,697 --> 00:23:56,802 And they do believe that they should dominate the world. 309 00:23:56,802 --> 00:24:01,706 And unfortunately, if you don't remove them, they will continue to do this. 310 00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:09,314 And the more power and the longer we stay back, like our president has allowed us to stay back, and allowed this across a 311 00:24:09,314 --> 00:24:19,257 very large area of the world, the more serious it becomes today, I think we're beginning to see the ramifications. 312 00:24:19,257 --> 00:24:29,334 A tsunami of young men flooding all over Western Europe, terrorism is on the rise, fear among all westerners high. 313 00:24:29,334 --> 00:24:32,971 The governments in the Middle East just can't contain us. 314 00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:37,375 So that, of course, invites the likes of Russia in. 315 00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:44,916 You could make a pretty good case here, Pastor, that these do look like the end times. 316 00:24:44,916 --> 00:24:51,890 [Zach] And one of the things that's unfortunate is that seemingly the Islamic community 317 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:56,061 is more end-times-minded than the Christian community is. 318 00:24:56,061 --> 00:25:00,432 They're more apocalyptic-minded than we are, in a lot of the sense. 319 00:25:00,432 --> 00:25:06,905 And the thing is is that if we understood what the Word of God actually said about the end times, if we knew the Word of 320 00:25:06,905 --> 00:25:11,843 God like the back of our hand, like Christians should, we'd understand if we just simply looked upon the world scene, 321 00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:15,213 that we have entered into the end times. 322 00:25:15,213 --> 00:25:16,181 We have. 323 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:22,420 So if you understand Islamic eschatology and their apocalyptic mindset, 324 00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,724 you understand why they're doing the things they do. 325 00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:29,527 Well, why would these Islamic extremists, why would they want to infiltrate the United States? 326 00:25:29,527 --> 00:25:32,464 Why wouldn't they just be satisfied with staying in the Middle East? 327 00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:38,169 Because with their apocalyptic mindset you understand, according to their end-times thoughts, their eschatology, 328 00:25:38,169 --> 00:25:46,478 that they want to infiltrate the rest of the world to set up a one-world global Caliphate. 329 00:25:46,478 --> 00:25:49,314 And you understand, well that's why they don't want to stay in the Middle East, because they 330 00:25:49,314 --> 00:25:54,119 believe it's so close to the end, they're infiltrating right now as we speak. 331 00:25:54,119 --> 00:26:00,392 [Tom Horne] And Zach, that's partly what makes them so dangerous, is that we as Christians, we observe prophecy. 332 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:04,763 We believe prophecy will happen, it was predicted, the end times will unfold, 333 00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:07,132 and we observe it, but we don't make it happen, right? 334 00:26:07,132 --> 00:26:08,533 We just observe it. 335 00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:15,840 Where in the Sunni Islamic belief, it's their responsibility to initiate Armageddon. 336 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,610 And that's why they're driven to do what they do. 337 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:20,178 [Pastor Jim] They want us to attack them. 338 00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:23,381 [Tom Horne] That's why they're killing people and boiling them. 339 00:26:23,381 --> 00:26:25,417 [Pastor Jim] Do you understand that? 340 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:26,618 They're not trying to save their own hides. 341 00:26:26,618 --> 00:26:29,087 We're trying to save our own hides. 342 00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,021 They're not. 343 00:26:30,021 --> 00:26:32,791 They want us to attack them. 344 00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:37,195 And if they die, they go to Heaven or someplace. 345 00:26:37,195 --> 00:26:39,664 [Tom Horne] It's seven levels of Heaven and seven levels of Hell. 346 00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:41,132 I don't understand that,, but whatever. 347 00:26:41,132 --> 00:26:45,704 [Pastor Jim] This is a war. 348 00:26:45,704 --> 00:26:51,376 I've had so many guests say they believe we're in the third World War. 349 00:26:51,376 --> 00:26:56,014 What does a Lt Col say about war? 350 00:26:56,014 --> 00:27:06,257 I'm just going to tell you what I think, I just think this is the third World War, I think it's a different kind of war, 351 00:27:06,257 --> 00:27:07,659 but it's world-wide. 352 00:27:07,659 --> 00:27:13,765 The enemy has already infiltrated our country, and has done it all over the world. 353 00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:17,535 The Christians are being beheaded in the Mid-East. 354 00:27:17,535 --> 00:27:18,903 They're being killed. 355 00:27:18,903 --> 00:27:23,975 And most churches do not want to hear it. 356 00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:25,710 They don't even want to hear. 357 00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:34,452 I have never had such warfare of people upset because the guests I bring on, because they don't want to hear. 358 00:27:34,452 --> 00:27:38,690 They want somebody to come on and tell you how to make some more money. 359 00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:45,130 And I want to tell you something, all that money you pile in the bank, one of these days, if these things happen, 360 00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:47,799 your money's gone. 361 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:54,205 I mean, Ted Koppel wrote a book, you know Ted, I'm sure, and it's called Lights Out. 362 00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:57,008 Do you know about the grid? 363 00:27:57,008 --> 00:28:01,212 Have you studied the grid? 364 00:28:01,212 --> 00:28:09,554 He says, he doesn't even say it's going to happen, he says it's absolutely going to happen. 365 00:28:09,554 --> 00:28:15,560 He doesn't say he thinks it's going to happen, he says this will happen if we don't do something about it. 366 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:28,573 And he said the cyber, and we've studied the bombs, EMP bombs, and the solar and the sun, and then Ted Koppel comes out and 367 00:28:28,573 --> 00:28:33,344 talks about there are people in our grid system right now. 368 00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:35,413 Do you have any information about that? 369 00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:37,782 [Lt Col Maginnis] What I can talk about, I will. 370 00:28:37,782 --> 00:28:40,752 Cyber is a very serious threat. 371 00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:45,757 The Federal Government is hit every day by millions of cyber attacks. 372 00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:47,158 Millions. 373 00:28:47,158 --> 00:28:53,832 I can tell on my computer at the Pentagon slows down, the Chinese had been very happy that day. 374 00:28:53,832 --> 00:28:59,471 Constant shutting down of operations across the government. 375 00:28:59,471 --> 00:29:09,414 But the infrastructure, of course, we're so connected, so interconnected electronically that we are very vulnerable to 376 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:13,451 the likes of EMP, or whatever. 377 00:29:13,451 --> 00:29:21,726 And when Zach was talking about the Sunnis and what Tom talked about, I think of what the Shia have been saying. 378 00:29:21,726 --> 00:29:30,034 The way in which they bring back their Mahdi, their Messiah, is by the elimination of the United States and Israel. 379 00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:38,243 And the Ayatollah made it very clear in many statements, "We want to destroy you. 380 00:29:38,243 --> 00:29:39,210 Death to America." 381 00:29:39,210 --> 00:29:49,053 Even in the wake of this giveaway nuclear program that our president has done, which has backfired, I think already, 382 00:29:49,053 --> 00:29:53,057 it's going to get even worse, that they are developing capabilities. 383 00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:58,029 ISIS is very bad, Iran is very, very bad. 384 00:29:58,029 --> 00:30:02,500 And they're kind of a secret sort of thing. 385 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,170 I was speaking at a conference a month ago. 386 00:30:05,170 --> 00:30:13,111 And after I spoke, this man who was from Iran came up, and he said, "You're 100% right, 387 00:30:13,111 --> 00:30:14,846 you know exactly what you're talking about. 388 00:30:14,846 --> 00:30:17,448 These people are very, very dangerous. 389 00:30:17,448 --> 00:30:24,389 This man had been in prison in Iran for 18 months, and God gave him a dream, and He said, "You're going to get out." 390 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:25,723 And he did. 391 00:30:25,723 --> 00:30:28,293 And now he's in exile in the West. 392 00:30:28,293 --> 00:30:35,066 And he's doing everything he can to warn the American people in North America about that threat. 393 00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:43,808 So yes, ISIS is the immediate threat, Iran is a very serious threat, and of course we face others. 394 00:30:43,808 --> 00:30:50,114 For years I wrote about China, for years I've written about Russia, I've been to Russia, I've been to China. 395 00:30:50,114 --> 00:30:54,052 These are very, very strenuous times. 396 00:30:54,052 --> 00:31:01,626 Unfortunately, as I indicate, Pastor, and never submit, I talk about what happens in the National Security Council. 397 00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,328 I have friends that go over there. 398 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:07,732 They won't let me because of my conservative views. 399 00:31:07,732 --> 00:31:15,406 I have friends who have tried to communicate to these people, and they'll go in there, and these young people who really have no 400 00:31:15,406 --> 00:31:20,545 background to do the things they do will say, "No, we can't do that." 401 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:26,451 Or they're sycophants when the president shows up and asks them how things are happening. 402 00:31:26,451 --> 00:31:30,188 They're making critical decisions. 403 00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:38,896 We spent a trillion dollars and 4000 American lives in a place called Iraq, and now we continue to spend in places like 404 00:31:38,896 --> 00:31:41,833 Afghanistan, and now Syria. 405 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:46,938 We need adult leadership, and yet we don't have it at our national security council. 406 00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:48,539 Yet they have good intelligence. 407 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:51,609 And occasionally we actually have some good people at the Pentagon. 408 00:31:51,609 --> 00:31:54,746 I'm friends with a lot of the top generals. 409 00:31:54,746 --> 00:32:03,554 I went to school with the very senior, and unfortunately I've been incredibly disappointed that they bought into the 410 00:32:03,554 --> 00:32:10,094 political establishment, they bought in, thinking that they're more important and their image is more important than the trust 411 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:11,596 of the American people. 412 00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:17,635 So I felt abandoned by my own friends, people that were in positions of authority. 413 00:32:17,635 --> 00:32:28,313 I had a four-star Marine tell me years ago, he said, "Bob, the reason I wouldn't throw my stars on the president's desk is 414 00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:33,184 because I didn't think anyone else could do the job." 415 00:32:33,184 --> 00:32:35,887 I didn't buy that, and I don't buy it today. 416 00:32:35,887 --> 00:32:40,625 And yet we have plenty of people in very senior positions making life and death decisions 417 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:45,063 for our security in this country, and they've abandoned us. 418 00:32:45,063 --> 00:32:53,204 [Tom Horne] And as a lay person, of course I have no experience whatsoever in military strategy or border control or any of that 419 00:32:53,204 --> 00:33:00,144 other stuff, but one of the things that's concerned me, I think we're actually at greater risk right now of an attack, 420 00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:07,151 like Paris, maybe something much worse in the United States than we ever have been before, and part of that is because of our 421 00:33:07,151 --> 00:33:13,191 border policy, part of it is because for at least 7 years we've had an absence of executive leadership. 422 00:33:13,191 --> 00:33:17,161 It's even been hostile to good intelligence. 423 00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:22,367 A lot of the guys you're working with, they give the government good intelligence, but they only find hostility. 424 00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:29,807 Hillary Clinton saying Muslims have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism, and that kind of crazy apologetic that's coming. 425 00:33:29,807 --> 00:33:32,043 And here's what I think, Jim. 426 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:34,178 I'm just jumping in here and then I'll shut up. 427 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:37,482 [Pastor Jim] Just stay in the pool, we want you swimming. 428 00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:41,686 [Tom Horne] Stay in the pool, okay. 429 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:50,795 I think that between now and the presidential election might be one of the most critical times in America history because the 430 00:33:50,795 --> 00:33:59,837 people who are coming across our borders, and I saw it's actually American Enterprise Institute published a report yesterday, 431 00:33:59,837 --> 00:34:07,879 they're polling the people, the refugees as they're coming across the border, and 13% of them are sympathetic to ISIS. 432 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,147 13%. 433 00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:12,150 And of course, maybe they're being conservative. 434 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:15,520 Maybe not everybody would admit, that they're coming into the country. 435 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,156 So you might have two out of ten that are coming here. 436 00:34:18,156 --> 00:34:23,428 These are people who would work with ISIS against the United States, and they're coming across our borders. 437 00:34:23,428 --> 00:34:30,535 But they've got to know that between now and the coming election one year from now is their best window of 438 00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:35,406 opportunity, because talk about sympathies, they're getting it from the federal level on down. 439 00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:39,977 But what's everybody in the GOP right now saying? 440 00:34:39,977 --> 00:34:44,048 They're saying, "Elect me and the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to close the borders and put these people on 441 00:34:44,048 --> 00:34:46,317 trains back to their countries." 442 00:34:46,317 --> 00:34:55,693 And so I think why that's critical is it might mean there's a thinking in the terror communities that this is their 443 00:34:55,693 --> 00:35:00,264 best time between now and the election to do something. 444 00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:14,312 [Zach] We will be right back after this special message. 445 00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:25,590 Explosions. 446 00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:30,495 [Rick Wiles] We're already in the third world war, it's actually underway right now. 447 00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:34,632 China and Russia are waging financial war against the US dollar. 448 00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:37,168 There are cyber wars that are taking place. 449 00:35:37,168 --> 00:35:44,375 There are mysterious explosions taking place in certain countries, including China. 450 00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:48,012 Massive explosions where chemical plants are blowing 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00:37:34,652 For a donation of $3500 or more to the ministry, you can receive our time of trouble offer. 469 00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:40,558 This offer comes with 7672 servings of food. 470 00:37:40,558 --> 00:37:42,059 Please order your food today. 471 00:37:42,059 --> 00:37:51,102 You can donate to this ministry by calling 1-888-988-1588 or go online to Jimbakkershow.com. 472 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:57,675 You can also write to Jim Bakker at PO Box 7330 Branson, Missouri 65615. 473 00:37:57,675 --> 00:38:06,250 Thank you for your continued prayers and support that helps keep us broadcasting around the world. 474 00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:09,353 [Pastor Jim] Could we do a Bakker's dozen on the book? 475 00:38:09,353 --> 00:38:10,721 [Zach] Yes we sure can. 476 00:38:10,721 --> 00:38:12,123 [Pastor Jim] Never Submit book. 477 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:16,894 [Zach] Yes, that's right, and you can get 13, a Bakker's dozen for a donation of $130 to the ministry. 478 00:38:16,894 --> 00:38:18,763 [Pastor Jim] You know what that boils down to? 479 00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:19,964 [Zach] Yeah, $10 a book. 480 00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:20,731 [Pastor Jim] Wow! 481 00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:23,234 That is half retail. 482 00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:29,540 You can get one book for a gift of $20, but if you get the Bakker's Dozen , they are down to $10. 483 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:31,042 Give them out. 484 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:31,942 I am serious. 485 00:38:31,942 --> 00:38:35,780 Get strong, make Christmas count. 486 00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:36,781 Isn't that what we said? 487 00:38:36,781 --> 00:38:42,653 [Mama Lori] Make Christmas Count is the theme of this Christmas. 488 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:43,821 [Pastor Jim] You know what? 489 00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:45,790 Lori and I have been talking it over, we love Christmas. 490 00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:51,762 We love Christmas, but we almost have a love, hate relationship right now with Christmas because we have a big family. 491 00:38:51,762 --> 00:38:55,032 Do you know what it is like to have to buy presents for everybody? 492 00:38:55,032 --> 00:38:57,468 Try to figure out the right ones, the good ones. 493 00:38:57,468 --> 00:39:02,006 And then you get it done and people go, "I don't remember what I got last year." 494 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:02,873 [Mama Lori] Exactly. 495 00:39:02,873 --> 00:39:04,108 We are not doing that this year. 496 00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:09,213 [Pastor Jim] We are giving survival buckets whether to our kids. 497 00:39:09,213 --> 00:39:10,147 Applause. 498 00:39:10,147 --> 00:39:13,217 [Mama Lori] We have a Christmas bucket, a Christmas Variety Buckets. 499 00:39:13,217 --> 00:39:16,520 It's like Merry Christmas kids. 500 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,191 [Pastor Jim] Every time I give them one and then they have it stacked at their hosue. 501 00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:25,062 That is one less that they are going to come to my house and get if things get bad. 502 00:39:25,062 --> 00:39:31,635 For a gift of $100 we are sending the Christmas Variety Bucket. 503 00:39:31,635 --> 00:39:33,971 This is about a month and a half of food, it's the best. 504 00:39:33,971 --> 00:39:35,272 In packets. 505 00:39:35,272 --> 00:39:42,413 [Zach] 18 different foods and drinks in there, 51 days of food, and it is for a donation of only $100 to the ministry. 506 00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:48,953 And remember that for every thousand dollars you donate to the ministry you help sponsor the prayer mountain chapel 507 00:39:48,953 --> 00:39:50,387 that's being built right now. 508 00:39:50,387 --> 00:39:55,159 And you get your name, for every thousand dollars, on the eternal prayer wall. 509 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,295 So if you donate for 10 of these buckets, you become a prayer mountain chapel sponsor. 510 00:39:58,295 --> 00:40:07,938 [Pastor Jim] If I just had 100 people give $1000, just give a check for $1000, we could start the chapel before Christmas.. 511 00:40:07,938 --> 00:40:11,642 And that's what I felt led to build the chapel out of. 512 00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:15,079 My first home is almost done, that we're building. 513 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:20,985 Which God showed me like 25 years ago I would build these dome houses in the last days. 514 00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:22,887 And they really are amazing. 515 00:40:22,887 --> 00:40:28,692 In fact I'm so in love with the model that I'd like to get it myself. 516 00:40:28,692 --> 00:40:31,395 But it's too expensive for me. 517 00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:35,666 [Mama Lori] Like I said, I find out half of my life on this show. 518 00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:40,070 [Pastor Jim] That unit, that's got some more work to do on it. 519 00:40:40,070 --> 00:40:48,646 It's going to have a sunroom, or a greenhouse on the side where you can sit out on your green porch, 520 00:40:48,646 --> 00:40:51,515 your greenroom with plants in it. 521 00:40:51,515 --> 00:40:53,851 You can grow stuff in the winter. 522 00:40:53,851 --> 00:40:56,954 But you can be warm out there in the middle. 523 00:40:56,954 --> 00:41:02,259 And it's an amazing, that's the bathroom in the side of the mountain. 524 00:41:02,259 --> 00:41:05,729 That's where the commode sits. 525 00:41:05,729 --> 00:41:09,667 There's the chandeliers going into the dome. 526 00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:15,573 And it's an amazing product. 527 00:41:15,573 --> 00:41:17,007 It has a fireplace. 528 00:41:17,007 --> 00:41:28,485 Every dome house has either a fireplace or a wood-burning stove for any emergencies. 529 00:41:28,485 --> 00:41:31,822 They stay so cool, they're like caverns and caves. 530 00:41:31,822 --> 00:41:35,226 And there's the kitchen going in right now. 531 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,460 Wait until you see it done. 532 00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:39,930 And it's just an amazing house. 533 00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:42,333 It's just an amazing place. 534 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,268 And it's fireproof. 535 00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:52,176 People have been through forest fires in California in the dome house, and just go inside and the fire went on by. 536 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:55,946 [Mama Lori] I understand, I heard that the kids, the students, 537 00:41:55,946 --> 00:41:58,649 some of the students went up with you to Prayer Mountain. 538 00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:02,553 So I believe it must be, I wasn't there, so I'm looking to see it too. 539 00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:10,027 It must be Jim Bakker with some of our media students up on Prayer Mountain. 540 00:42:10,027 --> 00:42:13,931 Music plays from phone. 541 00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:17,268 [Pastor Jim] It's just a few days before Christmas. 542 00:42:17,268 --> 00:42:22,706 Theron gave me his phone with Christmas music. 543 00:42:22,706 --> 00:42:32,783 And so today we've been laying out a more defined circle where the prayer dome will go here on Prayer Mountain. 544 00:42:32,783 --> 00:42:36,887 And I want to thank all of you that have been supporting Prayer Mountain. 545 00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:48,465 And we're believing God by Christmas that we will be able to begin building the chapel here on Prayer Mountain. 546 00:42:48,465 --> 00:42:52,269 As you look around here we've been tying ribbons, it's amazing. 547 00:42:52,269 --> 00:43:00,244 All we could find was red ribbon and we tied these red ribbons to mark the exact spot for the chapel. 548 00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:07,017 And it's like we're decorating prayer mountain for Christmas in honor of Jesus. 549 00:43:07,017 --> 00:43:11,388 And it's really been amazing being up here looking out right now. 550 00:43:11,388 --> 00:43:18,395 In fact as I look over there I can see the water tower here at Morningside. 551 00:43:18,395 --> 00:43:26,570 And I can see the big bell tower on top of Grace Street there, and all the colorful buildings. 552 00:43:26,570 --> 00:43:31,308 It's really quite a sight from this prayer mountain area. 553 00:43:31,308 --> 00:43:37,147 And hearing Christmas music in the background has really put me in the Christmas mood. 554 00:43:37,147 --> 00:43:44,989 But I want to thank you again and pray that some of you will go and say "We're going to place our family name as an act of 555 00:43:44,989 --> 00:43:59,403 praise." We're going to give a Christmas gift to God, a chapel that people can come to 24 hours a day here. 556 00:43:59,403 --> 00:44:06,643 It is a ways up, it's about a mile drive to get up here to prayer mountain, but it will be worth it, and it is beautiful, 557 00:44:06,643 --> 00:44:17,621 beautiful. A beautiful place here at the Ozark Mountains. A beautiful place here at Morningside. 558 00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:28,632 I'm going to go back to our program for now, but I want to say again, Merry Christmas from Prayer Mountain. 559 00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:31,902 My first Merry Christmas from Prayer Mountain. 560 00:44:31,902 --> 00:44:40,744 Go loves you, we love you, we're so excited when we can all gather here on Prayer Mountain. 561 00:44:40,744 --> 00:44:44,048 It won't be long if you stand with us. 562 00:44:44,048 --> 00:44:48,719 God loves you, oh he really does. 563 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:57,961 The thing that I want to tell people watching the show today is we have for a few more days, we have put together the biggest 564 00:44:57,961 --> 00:45:06,303 and the best per serving offer of food we have ever offered. 565 00:45:06,303 --> 00:45:09,606 This is an amazing, amazing offer. 566 00:45:09,606 --> 00:45:12,676 [Zach] That's right, it's called the peace of mind offer. 567 00:45:12,676 --> 00:45:14,044 And you have the basic. 568 00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:15,312 [Pastor Jim] That must be Lori's offer. 569 00:45:15,312 --> 00:45:16,747 [Zach] Yes, she actually created the name. 570 00:45:16,747 --> 00:45:17,848 [Mama Lori] I love the name. 571 00:45:17,848 --> 00:45:27,958 [Pastor Jim] And honestly if you order this order, it's the 7 years of food all in packets. 572 00:45:27,958 --> 00:45:29,827 The best food we have. 573 00:45:29,827 --> 00:45:32,196 These are the big master buckets here. 574 00:45:32,196 --> 00:45:40,437 This is the, like the rolled oats and the wheat and all the sugar and everything. 575 00:45:40,437 --> 00:45:43,340 Amazing for bulk food. 576 00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:45,442 That's almost 8 years isn't it? 577 00:45:45,442 --> 00:45:49,646 [Zach] Yes, it's well over 7 years of food right here, the bulk buckets. 578 00:45:49,646 --> 00:45:52,449 And it's 28 buckets of bulk food. 579 00:45:52,449 --> 00:45:56,553 And it also comes with all the buckets that are behind me right now. 580 00:45:56,553 --> 00:45:57,921 [Pastor Jim] And this is 7 years. 581 00:45:57,921 --> 00:46:02,025 And all of this is the best food there is. 582 00:46:02,025 --> 00:46:10,934 That's Joseph's storehouse, the big, I mean anybody that feels like we might go through something, this is like going to 583 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:12,669 your own store. 584 00:46:12,669 --> 00:46:13,837 This is where you go. 585 00:46:13,837 --> 00:46:18,976 You've got bananas, you think banana's grow in the supermarket, they don't. 586 00:46:18,976 --> 00:46:21,178 They grow down south. 587 00:46:21,178 --> 00:46:28,085 And potatoes and all of the amazing food in bulk. 588 00:46:28,085 --> 00:46:34,224 The milk bucket is 55 gallons in one of the powdered buckets. 589 00:46:34,224 --> 00:46:36,994 55 gallons of milk. 590 00:46:36,994 --> 00:46:43,167 And if you like skim milk you can end up with 100 and some gallons of milk 591 00:46:43,167 --> 00:46:45,903 if you want to water it down to what they do for skim milk. 592 00:46:45,903 --> 00:46:48,972 But these are amazing. 593 00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:57,281 If you're ever going to help yourself, when the even that these men on today's broadcast comes about. 594 00:46:57,281 --> 00:47:03,887 I mean you've got learned scholars saying there's going to be an attack on America. 595 00:47:03,887 --> 00:47:11,061 You've got a man who, one of the top journalists of all time saying there's going to be a time when the power grid 596 00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:16,833 is going down and they're already planning it. 597 00:47:16,833 --> 00:47:25,275 [Zach] That's right, and they're not only capable of hacking into our power grid, Ted Koppel warns that currently as you and I sit 598 00:47:25,275 --> 00:47:30,614 here they are currently, China and Russia are sitting in our grid. 599 00:47:30,614 --> 00:47:36,119 And he warns that even Iran is on the verge of being able to simply just sit in the grid and be able to turn off whenever 600 00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:37,354 they would like to. 601 00:47:37,354 --> 00:47:41,291 [Pastor Jim] Did you hear what the Colonel said? 602 00:47:41,291 --> 00:47:44,962 He works in the Pentagon. 603 00:47:44,962 --> 00:47:47,664 This is one of our great leaders. 604 00:47:47,664 --> 00:47:53,570 I hope he serves in our government forever, until he's 120. 605 00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:55,072 But what did he say? 606 00:47:55,072 --> 00:47:59,977 Daily, I'm sure I didn't hear him right. 607 00:47:59,977 --> 00:48:01,645 [Zach] No, he said millions. 608 00:48:01,645 --> 00:48:10,287 [Pastor Jim] He did, because he said every day in the Pentagon, they're hacking into the systems over a million times in a day. 609 00:48:10,287 --> 00:48:11,655 Millions of times. 610 00:48:11,655 --> 00:48:13,590 That's insane. 611 00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:21,965 He said they hack so much he can tell when the computers at the Pentagon slow down. 612 00:48:21,965 --> 00:48:26,036 They've already hacked into our grid according to the experts. 613 00:48:26,036 --> 00:48:33,343 It will be a cyber war on our grid that Ted Koppel says will bring it down. 614 00:48:33,343 --> 00:48:35,579 So why wouldn't you have food? 615 00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:38,682 I don't get what's going on. 616 00:48:38,682 --> 00:48:44,755 I don't get people saying don't prepare. 617 00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:53,463 If there's 1% chance that maybe I heard from God, I would be prepared. 618 00:48:53,463 --> 00:48:57,834 And I am prepared because God has never lied to me. 619 00:48:57,834 --> 00:49:08,578 God has never told me anything that did not come to pass. 620 00:49:08,578 --> 00:49:12,949 Everything is coming to pass that he ever told me about. 621 00:49:12,949 --> 00:49:22,859 And so today the best thing that I can say for someone who is not prepared, pray about, instead of doing a wasteful Christmas, 622 00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:30,067 order the peace of mind offer, get enough food for how many years? 623 00:49:30,067 --> 00:49:33,603 [Zach] It's a total of 14 years and 8 months of food. 624 00:49:33,603 --> 00:49:35,539 [Pastor Jim] 14 years and 8 months. 625 00:49:35,539 --> 00:49:37,474 [Zach] Yeah it boils down to 28 cents a serving. 626 00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:42,145 [Mama Lori] So again this is the bulk food over here, but then over here we have. 627 00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:46,416 And we have been the taste testers here. 628 00:49:46,416 --> 00:49:49,553 We have tasted every single one of these foods. 629 00:49:49,553 --> 00:49:52,589 And they come in the individual packets inside the buckets. 630 00:49:52,589 --> 00:50:00,430 And again I say it over and over and over, but Rick Joyner said years ago you better have something to barter with. 631 00:50:00,430 --> 00:50:02,866 This makes an amazing bartering tool. 632 00:50:02,866 --> 00:50:07,537 [Zach] And these buckets, in each of the buckets is actually 90 days of food 633 00:50:07,537 --> 00:50:11,074 with 18 different recipes within the buckets. 634 00:50:11,074 --> 00:50:13,176 [Pastor Jim] Well Lori has one of the marinara. 635 00:50:13,176 --> 00:50:16,012 [Mama Lori] That's your favorite, there it is. 636 00:50:16,012 --> 00:50:22,152 [Pastor Jim] Now listen to me, if you have this, it's so saucy. 637 00:50:22,152 --> 00:50:26,656 Is that a word? 638 00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:37,667 When I go to get spaghetti in a restaurant, I want a little noodles with my sauce. 639 00:50:37,667 --> 00:50:41,538 Forgive me you guys up in Alaska. 640 00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:45,809 But when I first went to Alaska, I was on the Alcan Highway and I stopped at a restaurant. 641 00:50:45,809 --> 00:50:47,778 I said I wanted spaghetti. 642 00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:49,713 You know what I got? 643 00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:53,417 A plate of spaghetti, no sauce. 644 00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:55,852 Just the noodles. 645 00:50:55,852 --> 00:50:58,355 I don't know if they still do that in Alaska or not, but it was. 646 00:50:58,355 --> 00:51:00,590 [Mama Lori] Do they still do that Jovanna in Alaska? 647 00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:01,758 She doesn't know. 648 00:51:01,758 --> 00:51:04,060 Your mom and dad make sure you eat good. 649 00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,630 [Pastor Jim] So this has so much sauce in it. 650 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:16,306 I mean if you're crazy about Italian food and you have your whole pile of these, you could take the rice over here. 651 00:51:16,306 --> 00:51:25,582 You can take some of the rice and put this with it and you've got a tremendous Italian dish full of fiber 652 00:51:25,582 --> 00:51:29,786 and full of energy for you to live on. 653 00:51:29,786 --> 00:51:35,926 And so between these 2 deals we've never put them together before. 654 00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:41,498 And the food companies that are working with us, the best. 655 00:51:41,498 --> 00:51:44,301 And by the way I was going to tell it on the show again today. 656 00:51:44,301 --> 00:51:55,312 Two of the biggest food companies, 2 of them, both have reported to us and others that the government has contacted 657 00:51:55,312 --> 00:52:05,055 them that there's something coming and they let them know they wanted an inventory of all the food in their factory. 658 00:52:05,055 --> 00:52:13,530 And that, that could be seized at any time. 659 00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:17,067 Now I couldn't say that if that wasn't true. 660 00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:22,506 We verified it, we verified with the owners of the companies. 661 00:52:22,506 --> 00:52:27,444 And people are going off flipping off, just flipping. 662 00:52:27,444 --> 00:52:28,278 "Who cares? 663 00:52:28,278 --> 00:52:29,379 Who cares?" 664 00:52:29,379 --> 00:52:33,316 You're going to care when the food is gone. 665 00:52:33,316 --> 00:52:34,584 You say "Oh Jim, I don't believe that." 666 00:52:34,584 --> 00:52:40,490 You're telling Jesus that he's a liar? 667 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:46,363 Jesus said there's coming a time when there will be no food to eat. 668 00:52:46,363 --> 00:52:53,637 I believe it so much that I have dedicated my life to getting people ready because I believe we're going to see millions of 669 00:52:53,637 --> 00:52:57,440 souls saved if we're alive to do it. 670 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,111 And we're going to have to be alive, is that right? 671 00:53:01,111 --> 00:53:02,812 [Jerry Jones] Hey Pastor Jim, you talked about what are you going to do 672 00:53:02,812 --> 00:53:07,951 with 14 years and 8 month of food, but Lori, you know. 673 00:53:07,951 --> 00:53:12,589 I've seen your family, Sasha, we're all family here. 674 00:53:12,589 --> 00:53:15,158 And people are going to keep coming. 675 00:53:15,158 --> 00:53:18,862 They're going to keep coming and they're going to look to you to be that lighthouse. 676 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:21,665 And what are you going to do when you have that opportunity. 677 00:53:21,665 --> 00:53:27,137 Like Lori has always said is feed them and then feed into them. 678 00:53:27,137 --> 00:53:28,872 So you've got to have it. 679 00:53:28,872 --> 00:53:36,212 And this is the best opportunity I've ever seen us be able to put together because our supplier has partnered with us on a 680 00:53:36,212 --> 00:53:41,685 temporary basis to this now because they see what's going on in the world and they want to help. 681 00:53:41,685 --> 00:53:43,954 [Pastor Jim] And it's temporary, people. 682 00:53:43,954 --> 00:53:46,122 Before God, it's temporary. 683 00:53:46,122 --> 00:53:51,294 And when this, they've prepared this food. 684 00:53:51,294 --> 00:53:53,597 We can ship this tomorrow. 685 00:53:53,597 --> 00:53:56,533 I mean immediately, it's shipping, they're shipping. 686 00:53:56,533 --> 00:53:57,934 It's shipping now. 687 00:53:57,934 --> 00:54:04,240 So the thing of it is, when it's gone, it's gone. 688 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,643 And it has to go back to the normal prices. 689 00:54:06,643 --> 00:54:08,545 And what do they save on this? 690 00:54:08,545 --> 00:54:10,380 Do you have any idea how much? 691 00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:16,152 [Zach] Well the peace of mind offer, it has a retail value of over $10,800. 692 00:54:16,152 --> 00:54:24,227 So it's actually a savings of $6,325. 693 00:54:24,227 --> 00:54:27,130 [Pastor Jim] This is probably the biggest offer we will ever offer. 694 00:54:27,130 --> 00:54:31,234 And how much money do they save? 695 00:54:31,234 --> 00:54:34,904 [Zach] They save a total of $6,325. 696 00:54:34,904 --> 00:54:38,241 [Pastor Jim] So it comes to how much per serving then? 697 00:54:38,241 --> 00:54:41,244 [Zach] 28 cents a serving, 14 years and 8 months of food. 698 00:54:41,244 --> 00:54:46,483 [Pastor Jim] 28 cents a serving, you can't get a McDonalds hamburger for that. 699 00:54:46,483 --> 00:54:48,418 Remember when we used to get a McDonalds hamburger? 700 00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:51,254 I think they were 15 cents when I was born, or something. 701 00:54:51,254 --> 00:54:53,423 Not when I was born, when I was a kid though. 702 00:54:53,423 --> 00:54:55,358 Is this breaking news? 703 00:54:55,358 --> 00:54:56,760 [Zach] Breaking news right now. 704 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,497 [Pastor Jim] Another hostage situation in North France. 705 00:55:00,497 --> 00:55:05,802 Several have suffered gunshot wounds, it's just breaking news, so we don't have the information. 706 00:55:05,802 --> 00:55:14,978 But this is, they don't know if it's connected to the one on November 13th or not. 707 00:55:14,978 --> 00:55:17,814 But it's just breaking news right now. 708 00:55:17,814 --> 00:55:26,156 And the hostages were taken, gunshots fired, the neighborhood has been quarantined off. 709 00:55:26,156 --> 00:55:31,628 And bank director and his family may have been taken as hostages. 710 00:55:31,628 --> 00:55:36,833 And so it's happening, people, all over the world. 711 00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:50,513 And if we don't start having compassion in our hearts for the millions of Christians. 712 00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:59,522 These Christians in Africa that were just shot and killed, many of them in a luxury hotel, 713 00:55:59,522 --> 00:56:05,929 they were asked to quote a verse from the Quran. 714 00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:15,071 And those who couldn't, bam, they shot their brains out. 715 00:56:15,071 --> 00:56:19,209 Do you people really believe nothing's going on? 716 00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:24,547 If a crisis takes place, then the food's gone. 717 00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:26,382 There's no time to get ready. 718 00:56:26,382 --> 00:56:29,753 No stores will be open, nothing will be there. 719 00:56:29,753 --> 00:56:34,424 But to have this. 720 00:56:34,424 --> 00:56:39,763 With inflation alone you could just sell it to your neighbors. 721 00:56:39,763 --> 00:56:45,935 It works as a trade to have these packets, especially, Lori had one of them here. 722 00:56:45,935 --> 00:56:50,573 Those, that would be like having $100 bill or more. 723 00:56:50,573 --> 00:56:52,609 It would be priceless really. 724 00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:57,680 So today, those who will say "Jim, I really want to be ready." 725 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:03,419 And those who say "Jim, I want to give something anyways." 726 00:57:03,419 --> 00:57:06,689 People give to church. 727 00:57:06,689 --> 00:57:08,792 You could give this gift, what is it total now? 728 00:57:08,792 --> 00:57:12,028 [Zach] It's a total of $4,500 donation for everything. 729 00:57:12,028 --> 00:57:15,999 [Pastor Jim] That's a saving of over $6,000. 730 00:57:15,999 --> 00:57:19,235 [Zach] And we're actually going to be throwing in a Bible bucket with that as well. 731 00:57:19,235 --> 00:57:20,937 [Pastor Jim] Oh yeah, might as well throw something else in. 732 00:57:20,937 --> 00:57:28,478 But what a savings, but you're giving to the work of the Lord. 733 00:57:28,478 --> 00:57:39,255 And I don't even know how we do it except the food company is as passionate about getting people ready as we are. 734 00:57:39,255 --> 00:57:42,625 Remember that God loves you, he really does. 735 00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:51,935 Call 1-888-988-1588 or write us at PO Box 7330 Branson, Missouri 65615. 736 00:57:51,935 --> 00:57:55,905 [Mama Lori] Or go to our website Jimbakkershow.com. 737 00:57:55,905 --> 00:57:59,475 [Pastor Jim] Bye, bye for today, God loves you, he really does. 738 00:57:59,475 --> 00:58:00,643 Bye, bye! 739 00:58:00,643 --> 00:58:03,313 [Mama Lori] Bye, bye, we love you! 740 00:58:03,313 --> 00:58:05,181 [Zach] Thank you watching today's broadcast. 741 00:58:05,181 --> 00:58:17,894 You can donate to this ministry by calling 1-888-988-1588 or write to Jim Bakker at PO Box 7330 Branson, Missouri 65615. 742 00:58:17,894 --> 00:58:18,895 Thank you for your continued prayers and support that helps keep us broadcasting around the world.